Practice making your own decisions, and work on rediscovering your personality. Overcoming the charisma of cult leaders, such as Jim Jones, is not an easy task. Itll take time for people to change their views, Hassan said, but by engaging with them and continuing to be respectful, it can help them pull away from conspiracies. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. Cults require an obsessive and complete belief in a radical religious view or radical political group. SHAPIRO: Joan Donovan is a researcher at Harvard Kennedy's Shorenstein Center, and she says the truth is often kind of boring and doesn't play well on social media. It's just trying to disrupt the meeting and disrupt county business. For this reason, deprogramming is a very expensive service. JAY GILLEY: Just having someone tell you you're right and don't listen to people - it just leads you down that path so fast. 1: It can help to know that you are not the first person to leave a controlling group and you won't be the last. 11. var prefix = 'ma' + 'il' + 'to'; BENSCOTER: Yeah. BENSCOTER: That is not what I'm about even a little. GILLEY: Looking back at it now, it's terrifying. addy08a3115d0b8c7e253703ff3626436340 = addy08a3115d0b8c7e253703ff3626436340 + 'gmail' + '.' + 'com'; It is the catalyst for starting this blog; and it is the reason so many people's lives have been harmed as a result of AA. SHAPIRO: Of course, that's false. Most cult experts themselves no longer use the terminology of deprogramming because of the controversies surrounding this intervention process. Like, this is, like, a war on thought. UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: A controversial election bill clears another hurdle at the state capitol. There seem to be almost no resources at all despite QAnon's head-spinning growth and the urgent calls from extremism experts for the government to invest in deradicalization initiatives. "Individuals who are. For the last 40 years, he's . QUEEN: That's right - and sturdy bridges, not nothing that's going to fall apart. var path = 'hr' + 'ef' + '='; And I think SMITH: Benscoter talks about the reputable nonprofits fighting human trafficking and suggests Queen get involved. addy12e374cf467cf94c035e499fed3d9ec1 = addy12e374cf467cf94c035e499fed3d9ec1 + 'miguelperlado' + '.' + 'com'; In Combating Cult Mind Control, Hassan describes what he calls his "BITE model," an acronym for the four components of "mind control": behavior, information, thought, and emotional control. She also cautions that when people are suffering like they are during the pandemic it's easier to get them riled up," and how big-hearted, caring people can be especially "susceptible to buying into things.". Patrick, and the parents who hired him, assumed that cult members must have been brainwashed, and therefore it was necessary to brainwash them, in reverse, in order to return them to "normality." var addyb2de03711ae6bd99ac1a0f1add652edf = 'rbbernstein' + '@'; MOTY: The extremists aren't the majority at this point, so business can still be done. Experts see this spread of disinformation as a public health emergency that's threatening democracy, increasing the risk of further violence, and straining family relationships. Thats toxic and going to drive the person deeper [into the conspiracy] by persecuting them.. Govt considers deprogramming terrorists Mother saves daughter from religious sect Bob Pardon to the rescue History of Cult Deprogramming Breakthrough Scientologist "Deprogrammed" var path = 'hr' + 'ef' + '='; 383 (1983)Google Scholar; Note, Tort Liability for Cult Deprogramming, 43 Ohio St. L.J. I'm not in a cult. You don't want to be dragged back into that confusion.". In Georgia, Andra Gillespie of Emory University says the voting bill would disproportionately hurt lower-income voters, people of color and Democrats. Specializes in recovery from cults, trauma, and abuse. Conspiracy theories are encouraged and promoted, but QAnon is a political cult that recruits and indoctrinates primarily online. document.getElementById('cloakf020b5c9b482943f070d4f6e57a6e054').innerHTML = ''; Deprogramming is a controversial tactic that attempts to help someone who has "strongly held convictions . Specializing in working with ex and exiting members of religious, secular or treatment groups using a trauma-informed perspectivePhone: (619) 807-9159, John Hochman, MD Los Angeles Email:This email address is being protected from spambots. The approach has evolved since the days when some deprogrammers came under fire for crossing legal and ethical lines by holding cult members against their will. In a classic deprogramming scenario, a cult member is physically abducted and held at a secret location or forcibly detained while visiting home. . Phone: (214) 607-1065 Email: info@dallascult.com Web site: www.dallascult.com Cyndi Matthews, PhD, LPC-S, NCC Counseling for cult survivors, domestic violence survivors, and LGBT populations Dallas Web site: www.drcyndimatthews.com Email: cyndersm@verizon.net TED's editors chose to feature it for you. There's no end to the need for those kinds of services, Benscoter says. You want to be right so bad. "You want to be right so bad. Ingo Michehl, M.Ed., Counseling Psychologist Bodensee, Germany Web site: psychotherapiebodensee.comEmail: This email address is being protected from spambots. Phone: (610) 622-3109, Katherine M. Schneider, LCSWPhiladelphiaPhone: (267) 234-7085 Web site: www.KMSPsychotherapy.com, Doug Duncan, MS, LPC and Wendy J. Duncan, MA, LBSW Dallas Specializing in cult recovery counseling with support group for former cult members. A few minutes in, Queen starts to push back, insisting she's not the impulsive or emotional type who would do that. 465 (1982)Google Scholar; Note, Religious Cult Members and Deprogramming Attempts, 15 Akron L. Rev. Queen is among an alarming number of Americans responding to a recent Ipsos poll, who mistook several false conspiracy theories for truth. BENSCOTER: I started believing that all information from regular news sources is just wrong, and they became, like, the enemy. document.getElementById('cloak8034107a87f3497c1eaf99e1fec2acf0').innerHTML = ''; document.getElementById('cloakd837acf5bd986a89f36638fee3f1630d').innerHTML = ''; Some claim that rules to enforce social distancing could lead to civil war and violent resistance. She recently founded a nonprofit called Antidote to run Al-Anon-style recovery groups for those caught up in disinformation and their loved ones. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. Specializing in working with former members, and the families of those in cults.Phone: (818) 907-0036, Cathy S Harris, MSW, LCSWSan Diego Web site: www.discoveryouservices.com Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. A small industrydeprogramminggrew up around the posited need to rescue people's children from the clutches of cult leaders, alternately depicted as monomaniacal zealots or sociopathic . addyfd9ed15925585d1f1899766b95a93c7b = addyfd9ed15925585d1f1899766b95a93c7b + 'dreichel' + '.' + 'com'; Phone: (630) 677-2070, Peter T. Malinoski, Ph.D., HSPP Has experience working with former cult members and their families. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. Everything was rigged. The question is whether the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol can begin to steer some of the Trump faithful toward the kind of cult deprogramming they so . var path = 'hr' + 'ef' + '='; "I've probably got almost a hundred requests in my inbox," says Diane Benscoter, who's been helping people untangle from extremist ideologies since the 1980s, after she herself was extricated from the Unification Church, commonly known as the Moonies. SHAPIRO: Former President Trump has led that attack on the truth on an unprecedented scale. Indeed, the idea is never to "snap the person out of it, or do an 'a-ha' moment where it's a light bulb," says Steven Hassan, "but rather to do incremental 'A-ha's'" so the person may slowly realize what doesn't add up. Deprogramming refers to an intervention process that reverses alleged brainwashing. Men and . Queen also believes the big lie that the Democrats stole the election from former President Donald Trump, and that the people who broke into the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 were actually undercover members of the left-wing Antifa, even though none of those who've been charged appears to have any connection with the far-left movement. Read transcript. var prefix = 'ma' + 'il' + 'to'; You need JavaScript enabled to view it. var addy_textfefae804527880e22aa3cd22f2d08a08 = 'crussellmft' + '@' + 'earthlink' + '.' + 'net';document.getElementById('cloakfefae804527880e22aa3cd22f2d08a08').innerHTML += ''+addy_textfefae804527880e22aa3cd22f2d08a08+'<\/a>'; Cult expert Steven Hassan was on Tuesday brought on CNN to advise on how to deprogram members of what he described in his 2019 book as the "Cult of Trump." Perhaps with an eye toward boosting his deprogramming business, however, he suggested the entire country was in need of his services. SMITH: Before long, they find more they can agree on - that January's violence at the U.S. Capitol was wrong, and so is hurting children, even though they disagree on what's actually happening. "Yes, I'm with you," Benscoter answers, as the two have a good laugh. Community education and consultation are offered. document.getElementById('cloak36636b8776af4b03ad7a9a07dfcdf3b6').innerHTML = ''; This talk was presented at an official TED conference. SMITH: For all the psy-ops used to suck people into a cultic group, experts say it takes just as much savvy and precision to help them out. She shares an insider's perspective on the mind of a cult member, and proposes a new way to think about today's most troubling conflicts and extremist movements. var prefix = 'ma' + 'il' + 'to'; var prefix = 'ma' + 'il' + 'to'; var path = 'hr' + 'ef' + '='; Add. BENSCOTER: I think it's really important to try to help people inoculate, to try to create herd immunity to psychological manipulation and to hit that tipping point in society where more people understand how these tactics work. document.getElementById('cloak9305946a8da6033cf0ae51a493ea258b').innerHTML = ''; The similarities between cults and being in love with a narcissist fall into three basic categories: the people involved. var path = 'hr' + 'ef' + '='; When Benscoter's conversation with Queen veers off toward an area of disagreement one more time, Benscoter makes one last pivot to try to end on a more congenial note. Joe Biden, who denounced Trump for refusing to criticize QAnon during a press conference last week. var prefix = 'ma' + 'il' + 'to'; He implores them to change their tone, to be less adversarial or less mocking. BENSCOTER: Some of the things that are being spread about, you know, babies being eaten and things - I don't think those things are true personally. var addy7986d920f3745ab243b59af6f71579f5 = 'cyndersm' + '@'; Ill read it and get back to you on it, if you agree to read something I share with you. document.getElementById('cloakfd9ed15925585d1f1899766b95a93c7b').innerHTML = ''; SMITH: Queen is also among the 20% who believe that those who broke into the Capitol in January were actually undercover members of the left-wing antifa, even though most of those arrested have been affiliated with right-wing groups. the features of the group or relationship. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The question is whether the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol can begin to steer some of the Trump faithful toward the kind of cult deprogramming they so . addy58e313c97f95266c6ebc9cf6532a97bb = addy58e313c97f95266c6ebc9cf6532a97bb + 'gmail' + '.' + 'com'; ", "That's right," agrees Queen. document.getElementById('cloak58e313c97f95266c6ebc9cf6532a97bb').innerHTML = ''; [2] [3] [4] It was founded in the wake of the 1978 cult mass murder/suicide at Jonestown, Guyana. "Often strong men muscle the subject into a car and take him to a place where he is cut off from everyone but his captors,". You need JavaScript enabled to view it. A problem shared is a problem halved. It was rigged. Bipartisan Lawmakers Introduce House Resolution Condemning QAnon 'Cult' (Forbes), Nearly A Third Of Americans Believe Covid-19 Death Toll Conspiracy Theory (Forbes), Trump Refuses To Denounce QAnon After Conspiracy Theory Is Described To Him (Forbes), The QAnon conspiracy theory has spread so widely. var addy_text3b255930a16b40f719162d87866cd410 = 'hochmanmd' + '@' + 'eurekamail' + '.' + 'net';document.getElementById('cloak3b255930a16b40f719162d87866cd410').innerHTML += ''+addy_text3b255930a16b40f719162d87866cd410+'<\/a>'; Also a former cult member and anti-cult activist. But Benscoter is careful not to come on too strong, and not to tackle too much, at least for this initial conversation. var addy_text8034107a87f3497c1eaf99e1fec2acf0 = 'info' + '@' + 'dallascult' + '.' + 'com';document.getElementById('cloak8034107a87f3497c1eaf99e1fec2acf0').innerHTML += ''+addy_text8034107a87f3497c1eaf99e1fec2acf0+'<\/a>'; var prefix = 'ma' + 'il' + 'to'; You could also give us a call. Advertisement - story continues below. Email:This email address is being protected from spambots. That's counterproductive, typically causing a person to just dig their heels in, Ryan says. Stay strong in your decision to leave the cult. What's changing now is how fast and how far it can spread. General Psychotherapy, Specializing in Cult Recovery and Education Phone: (541) 306-6081 Web site: www.ColleenRussellmft.com/, Roberta Cobrin Eisenberg, MSW, BCD PhiladelphiaIndividual and family counseling. And among those insurrectionists were well-known adherents of . The Deprogramming of Arnold Horshack: Directed by Bob Claver. document.getElementById('cloak5fb41fcd031f23f99e1fe74c1f0c8e03').innerHTML = ''; "She doesn't even Google," Queen says, "because she says Google doesn't show you the right things.". var addyd837acf5bd986a89f36638fee3f1630d = 'andreamoore4' + '@'; A documentary following the Lord of the Righteouess Church. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. Phone: 317.536.5482, Deirdre Hart Wilson, CSW Las Vegas/Henderson A survivor of a destructive group who specializes in recovery from cults, trauma, and abuse.Email:This email address is being protected from spambots. The authoritative record of NPRs programming is the audio record. Michelle Queen does not consider herself part of QAnon, but she does believe some of its most outlandish conspiracies including that Satan-worshipping elites in a secret pedophile cabal are killing babies and drinking their blood. It would add voting restrictions to upcoming elections. Deprogramming is the more drastic of the two approaches because it usually involves an initial kidnapping to get the cult member away from the cult. 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