You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. Thanks for the suggestion. This condition would be even worse if I had a round in the chamber and loaded magazine. It now passes the recoil spring test. I will let everyone know what I find out. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. My G21 Gen 4 would do the same thing from time to time when it was brand new. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. Pasted as rich text. I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. This isn't an issue when practicing slow fire but rapid fire would be a problem. Have you tried a different firing pin spring? *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. The problem is, that when I keep the trigger depressed, the gun sometimes hesitates when returning to battery about 1/4" from seating. Welcome to Glocks, Matter of fact, I have a couple of triggers from Charlie Vanek that he used a Lone Wolf connector in that he had tuned up. Usually, what the OP is describing is a problem somewhere else in the gun. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I will give anything a try because I can't afford to just eat the cost of this slide and buy a new one. Don't leave 10mm brass, someone here will be willing to pay cash for them. Several failures to go into battery per magazine? That's an easy way to figure out if you're just limp wristing or if it's a mechanical issue. The problem is when the slide slams forward. Any . Paste as plain text instead, If this checks out 17 pounds is for 40 S&W. Its light but mushy. I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. JavaScript is disabled. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. It's great. "Laws that forbid the carrying of armsdisarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimesSuch laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." I found my recoil springs drops a little as well. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. Display as a link instead, Is this RSA going to $hit already? The second came from the Instructor I took the course from. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. This may sound silly but when I was new to glocks I thought the pin in the grip frame was only if you used the extended back straps. I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. BTW, it fired and function 100% last night for 250 rounds with the spring installed incorrectly. Your link has been automatically embedded. It's as if the holding of the trigger is holding back the slide somehow. I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. and Mrs. America turn in your guns' - I would have!". With that said I dont really see how your issue is being caused by the trigger. Never had an issue with the factory barrel. I stripped the entire frame and can't seem to find the issue. In the dozen or so that I have built and helped build, I have never had a need to 'file' down a trigger bar safety tab. If you completely stripped it, listen to alma. Thanks. I will look into buying some calipers. Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. Something he has seen in the field. I'd take it to a gunsmith or a local shop with glock experience before it gets made worse. There is a lot of stuff interacting to make the gun work and sometimes it can be hard to figure out. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. 20+ is for 10mm. It is one of the dual captured springs, so there doesn't appear to be much that can be done to "fix" anything. "If I could have banned them all - 'Mr. This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. I don't know what the freaking problem is with my gun not going back into battery. I check the recoil spring from time to time the first way Vincent mentioned. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. If it does, its hitting that bump too high. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. If it would close unless you let the trigger forwardthen it fails the test. I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. Pasted as rich text. Great info! Eject it. The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. Thank you for that great info! I'll do a detail strip soon and see if I find anything out of the ordinary. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. What Argyle said sounds about right. Ohthis is all with the muzzle pointing straight up. I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. Its never happened with the factory barrel. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. FYI it's not the recoil spring. Have you made a change in ammo or reloading component lately? Everything else seems to be working fine. Hope yours breaks in and the issue clears itself up. Upload or insert images from URL. Lord, make me fast and accurate. Oct 20, 2013. Yes i am. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. What load you firing? Others who know more might add some but I think it's not a problem and will wear in with use. -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. I initially chalked it up to the recoil spring being too light or a magazine issue, but it's still happening after swapping the stock, barely used RSA back in, and it has happened with all of the extensions. I couldnt be happier. Yes Glocks are pretty darned easy firearms to work with/on and, because of this, they are easy to make mistakes with as well. Polish inside the slide rail use 400 to 600 grit sand paper filed on thr edge of a credit card and full length back and fourth along the entire rail slots and the clean out and try fit on frame, better to repeat often and check for fit than tale too much. I've been running Glock pistols since they came out with the G21 in .45acp over 30 years ago, that's when I sold my Colt 1911 and never looked back. None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. I'm assuming the recoil spring isn't the issue since it's only been fired one time. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. I'm sorry it took me so long to reply, but life got in the way. I noticed this after a cleaning. It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. 17s and a 26 but done here, but the methods should be the same on the 20. Your previous content has been restored. Ammo from the same box will fire fine in my 92A1 and P228, and G19 with the factory barrel. I tired changing the connector back to the original and nothing changed. It runs fine when shooting but it you ease the slide forward it stops and does not go into battery unless the trigger is moved forward. Now I admit I am not sure if this is happening when i take the slide off, but I am guessing not. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. So let's make sure we understand this situation. The slide goes forward just fine if he doesn't hold back the trigger but when he holds back the trigger, the slide won't go fully forward. I do not recommend using a dremel on that. I checked and it looks fine. I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. Just an excuse to try something new. I'm wondering if it could be a defective recoil spring? Shoot the crap out of it. it looks like the spring doesn't detend far enough , then doesn't pushes the slide into complete battery. The problem was a Ghost firing pin safely spring. My brand new Glock 19 Gen4 does the exact thing. Thanks for the info. https://www.glockstore.com/Glock-Armorers-Half-Slide-Cover-Plate, AR15 Optics decision/dilemma. Your link has been automatically embedded. This allowed the rear trigger housing to raise up and give me battery/jamming issues as well. Powered by Invision Community, failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger. I haven't fired it yet, but all of the dry functions now work as well as the recoil spring test!!! are you certain that everything is installed properly? My glock 19 doesn't go back into battery until I reset the trigger. All Rights Reserved. If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. My Glock trigger was/is the same as my Timney, 2.5#. Then run it like you sole it and it will work fine. ago I'm not missing a pin I just put the wrong one in, and that's honestly what I thought, I'll try to fix it and see if it helps 1 Reply A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. These both assume a stock Glock so YMMV.-----I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. I will look into it. I have not stripped the slide but I'm sure I could figure it out if the issue is there. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. It's only had failures to go to battery when I milked the slide. It only hangs up if I hold the trigger back as if shooting off the reset. Was this an issue before you installed the new connector? Ok, then 2k rounds isn't outside the realm of possibility for the spring to start failing the spring test. Its been awhile but isn't that a test on the glock holding the gun upright and dropping the slide with the trigger held? sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. I am shooting my handloads right now it is 124 but will go back to 115 once this batch runs out. thats one of my fears. I am making sure not to ease it forward. The lead tech at Suarez International was not only less helpful, but a total jerk about it. JavaScript is disabled. I noticed while shooting that sometimes the slide will not return back to battery 100%. I knew it was wrong cause I have a factory G17 gen 3. Im curious to see what the hype is about but getting rid of my Glocks isnt a consideration. Nice pull and crisp break. I have 2 Timneys installed, one on a 34.4 & 34.3. In one range trip (about 350 rounds) and one match this past weekend, I basically can't get through a magazine without multiple failures to go into battery. Building a V2 soon. From personal experience I recommend a factory connector. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. 1. Paste as plain text instead, Something is WRONG, either modifications, misassembled, or maintenance. I recently changed out the connector on a new G19 I picked up and I noticed that if I rode the slide home slowly while doing dry fire practice the gun would FTRTB due to a longer arm on the connector that rides against the cam on the slide. This is only going to be used at the range. How are you sending the slide forward? When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. The slide hangs up on something about 1/2" back. Try some hot 124 or 147 factory rds and let me know if it still does it. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Glock 36's historically dislike certain ammo's, you just need to find the ammo it likes. What happens when you let the slide slam forward? Just to make sure that it wasn't something trigger related I threw the old serrated trigger assembly back in and it does the same thing so I put the new smooth one back in. I noticed that even after one dry-fire, the recoil spring assembly drops down a little bit when I take the slide off the frame. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Unlike aftermarket the factory connectors are true drop in and usually dont need adjustments. I only shoot factory ammo. Ive tried swapping the extensions to different mag bodies for what its worth and the result is the same. Never an issue with limp wristing so far. I'm wondering if cerakote got in the extractor channel and gummed things up. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. update looks to be the coating in tight paces, there is some ware marks on the slides where is contacts the frame. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. If you need to smooth the face on the cruciform, I've found that a super fine file works best. Thanks for all the feedback everyone. You can post now and register later. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. Out of a 10 round mag, it averaged 2 or 3 times. 3. make sure the plunger is properly installed, take the side apart and push down on the plunger. I have Timney triggers in two Glock 17 Gen 4 MOS pistols that I run in USPSA CO. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Just got my slide back from being milled for dp pro and does not go into battery every time. My participation level isnt at the point where a dedicated backup gun makes sense so i dont have another gen 5 to compare, this might be the thing that gets me to try a sig though. Handy to have this around while you're tinkering A forum community dedicated to all New York firearm owners and enthusiasts. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. Found the culprit. so, not a G20 but nearly all G17/19 I built or had the opportunity to help had the part that sticks up on the trigger assembly that pushes on the firing pin safety too high. Grab the slide by the serrations and ram the web of your shooting hand into the cradle of the frame as hard as you can until it unjams. How much did you need to take off? BrianEnos.com If not HELP PLEASE! No need to clean, just add lube. There's too much risk of changing the angle, removing too much material, and or rounding the edges(which will result in decreasing surface area). February 21, 2022 in Glock. Do you have a Glock Armorer orange endplate that allows you to see the striker trigger bar engagement?. I knew what it felt like from a second 17 I own, so I knew that was the route I wanted to go. Can also try downloading the magazine by one round. Pasted as rich text. One new winner* is announced every week! With Timney I can set off small rifle that I could not with my Glock trigger. I've got a 3rd gen G19 that I use as a suppressor host. I'm hoping that shooting it will solve it. Just file a little, test, file a little till it isnt happening any more? In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. I'm going to investigate your suggestions. I think I had a similar problem once. The plunger spring somehow got turned sideways. Break it in!!! buddy19 I'm not sure if you have the stock FPS spring or not. Could be ammo related. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The only reason I switched to be honest, especially with primer scarcity. I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. You can post now and register later. I noticed that sometimes when I shoot, it will not go into battery (cycles fine otherwise) until I release the trigger. Does it function? Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? On a side note, this gun did not want to feed my semiwadcutters at all, and also pinched my pinky a lot. It won't load a round. If all else fails I'll call Glock. I've shot pistols for a while and also have a g17. Or at least use it as a starting point to tweak in a different direction than a Timney??? The trigger bar and connector are polished but no metal reshaped or removed. I've read through a lot of the big thread on the Timney Trigger, and have searched, and haven't been able to find similar malfunctions happening with the Timney. I think the increased slide weight is preventing the rsa from becoming fully compressed during the recoil cycle using the handloads. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. Pics to come soon. Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. try firing it. I'm guessing if the OP was shooting reloads this may have been the problem. When it completely hangs I can release the trigger part way and it will snap into battery. The Barbie dolls are mine. If it goes into battery completely then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Another test I've seen done is to load a magazine completely full. I like the idea of using a second gun to diagnose. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. Also do you have another 17 handy? A Glock is one of the easiest pistols to work on and we have pleanty of content for you to learn more about this pistol. I do . You can take the Glock Armorers course and they give you one. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. - Bren. I just pulled the firing pin safety and sure enough the spring had gotten tweeked when I reassembled it. JavaScript is disabled. Did lots on it and got it running like 98%. Any ideas on what the issue might be? The gun has about 11,000 rounds through it. I'm not new to glocks and have done detailed strips before so I don't think it is the recoil spring not seated correctly. I just made the switch to CO from Production with my 34.5 MOS. I totally get this. If that doesn't work I would also suggest installing a heavier recoil spring and a heavier trigger spring. If you aren't getting drag marks on the underneath side of the slide from it, I would leave it be, other than giving it and the bar itself a good polishing. January 3, 2004 in Glock. I would tear it down and put it back together a few times. Put ammo in from the same box into my 92A1 and had no issues. A couple thought on the trigger- if you work on the sear engagement, proceed with caution. Usually a problem in the op rod channel or a rail problem. I put some vibratite on the screw and am going to head to the range to test it in a few minutes. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. My 19 does that but when I shoot everything seems to be OK. can your extractor move freely? Hope you were able to get yours sorted out. I plan on speaking to Glock tomorrow now that I have a bit of an idea. I have just installed an Agency arms trigger & trigger bar in the gun. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If the problem gets worse that would be another indicator. You may post anything as long as it is related to the Glock line of pistols, and you are not spamming our sub with your advertisements, sales, YouTube channel. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I will say that I just set up a new Zev Glock 17 with RMR, and my usual loads ran the gun just fine, but (without checking) the Zev slide seems lighter than the OEM Glock one it replaced. 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