This includes chasing, pursuing, or herding antelope with any type of vehicle. Concentrate your efforts in areas with waterholes (not necessarily on the water), as the plateau is often dry at this time of the year. Arizona is landlocked, and its terrain is comprised of deep canyons, high- and low-elevation deserts, many natural rock formations, and volcanic mountain ranges. During the spring hunt be prepared for cold temperatures and even snow. Notice: Archery deer hunters Unit 12B and 12B West are not an open area for over-the-counter tag holders since 2008. Elevations vary from 3,000' to more than 9,200', with a large plateau, the Kaibab, comprising a majority of the unit. The Alternative Deer Management Plan provides the guidelines for which decisions on hunt recommendations are made. There are generally one or two herds on South Canyon Point; however this area is more difficult to access as there are few roads in the area. Although these are a little tougher hunts, a trophy Arizona elk is definitely a likely possibility to harvest. Areas around Crystal Springs, Sourdough Well, and along the 610 rd near the National Park Boundary provide the best opportunity for finding the often secretive Blue Grouse. The large canyons and rocky areas that form the edges of the Kaibab and Paria plateaus are likely areas to locate lion sign. If I was going in to there I'd focus on the Mt. This is a large area, so scouting will be beneficial. A relatively constant output of trophy quality deer has been evident, throughout the history of the plateau, as demonstrated by a recent analysis of the Arizona Record book. Overview: Chukar Partridge is an overlooked game bird in this unit. I plan on going up there to scout sometime soon but was wondering if anyone has seen elk up there. Overview: Unit 12A, world famous for the Kaibab Deer Herd, is also home to one of the premier turkey populations in the state of Arizona. Areas: It may be hard to believe but the likelihood of running into an older age class buck, as near as the author can tell, is just about equal almost anywhere on the plateau. Dispersed camping is allowed along BLM routes. Finally, during the night, prior to a morning hunt drive the roads getting out occasionally and turkey calling. Beginning at U.S. Hwy 89A and the Kaibab National Forest boundary near mp 566; southerly and easterly along the forest boundary to Grand Canyon National Park; southerly and westerly along the park boundary to Kanab Creek; northerly along Kanab Creek to Snake Gulch; northerly, easterly and southerly around the Kaibab National Forest boundary to U.S. Hwy 89A near mp 566. New Harvest Thresholds When the number of harvested mountain lions reaches the threshold, that zone closes to the additional harvest of mountain lions at sundown the Wednesday immediately following. Areas of elk concentrations change somewhat year-to-year, depending on localized summer rainfall filling stock tanks and greening up vegetation. The Kaibab has supplied many happy hunting experiences in the past and will hopefully continue to do so for generations to come. This squirrel is most active early in the morning and just prior to dark and is always associated with Ponderosa Pines. Once the location of turkeys has been determined getting up early, hours before first light, is critical. Units 12A East, 12AWest and 12B require near max points, but hunters lucky enough to draw an East side Kaibab tag are in store for an incredible mule deer hunt. Concentrate your efforts in areas with rim-rock and significant changes in elevation. If you are fortunate enough to receive a coveted 12B deer or sheep tag, you might consider purchasing a mountain lion tag before heading to the Unit. Both of these units make up a portion of . Current data indicates that buck:doe ratios are excellent. Find areas overlooking large open expanses and plan on sitting still for hours on end and glassing until you feel like your eyes are going to fall out. From the West: State Hwy 389 Learn more, 2018 Bison Hunter Packet 2017 Spring/Summer bison clinic video 2017 Fall bison clinic video. Create a free account to read the rest of this elk hunting note! Post not marked as liked . Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. AS a reminder: Dont stand really close to edge, the sandstone/ granite crumbles with very little weight or movement, you dont want to see the bottom or top, depending on which way your falling on the way down. As the season progresses mule deer bucks on the plateau become more and more secretive. The lion population in Unit 12 is a migratory population of roughly 60-80 animals with the lions essentially following the deer herd as it migrates from summer to winter ranges. The premium late season rut hunts in Unit 12A-East have the highest success rates on big mule deer, but lots of huge bucks have been taken in the early rifle and archery hunts. Hunt success figures have fluctuated around the 40-50% range for the last decade, some of the highest hunt success for mule deer in the state. Welcome to ahf! The best hunting techniques include walking, and watching and listening while sitting with your back to a tree. The Department reminds hunters that bison within these hunt areas are at low densities or may not be present during the hunt. Elevations range from 6,500-9,000. Enjoy the natural splendor of the Kaibab Plateau, revel in your good fortune at having a tag, but most of all be a responsible sportsman and represent our sport in the best manner possible. Some bighorns have also been taken from the north rim of the Paria Canyon and near spring sources along the Vermilion Cliffs. The separation of 12BW from 12B was designed to limit the number of hunters and the deer harvest on the Paria Plateau, but not restrict a hunter with a 12B permit to only hunting the Paria Plateau. Create a free account to read the rest of this access note! Mountain Lion: The Unit 12 or Zone B (GMUs 12A and 12B) Mountain Lion population, based on harvest information and observed lion sign, appears to be healthy and robust. The state line is only marked at dirt road crossings. Spring sources along the Vermilion Cliffs are best accessed by horseback or hiking from Highway 89A 2 or 3 miles to the base of the cliffs. Less pressure o grow big? Be patient, many long time grouse hunters often return to camp, after a long day of walking, with an empty vest. No off-road travel by motor vehicles is allowed. Other Pertinent Climate Information Elevation ranges are based on weather stations in or near the unit. Once a track is located the hounds are released and the lion is pursued until treed. Also look for turkey scratch, those locations where flocks of turkeys have been feeding and have disturbed the litter layer of the forest floor. Areas: During the spring turkey hunt significant winter snowfall can affect access and often dictates hunting locations. It is very sandy and requires 4-wheel drive. Listen, debate, learn, evolve and respect. However, for the past few years, bison have been seen near Wall Lake, as well as along Forest Service Roads 219B, 223, 270, and 610. We consider 5B North to have 350+ potential on early archery hunts. Finally, enjoy the finest terrain, climate, and surroundings that nature has to offer, the Kaibab Plateau. There are no easy ways to hunt them, but the breath-taking scenery makes it a great place to try. Hunting in the bottom of the Paria Canyon requires hiking with wet feet in sandy terrain along the Paria River. Waterhole hunting becomes less productive as frost begins to supply the need for water. With continued and persistent drought the woody winter browse in 12AW has been less productive for the past several years and as result concerns over the carrying capacity of this vital range are warranted. Areas: It may be hard to believe but the likelihood of running into an older age class buck, as near as the author can tell, is just about equal almost anywhere on the plateau. Be prepared for a wide range of conditions including severe winter weather. The fall hunt is often characterized by warm to hot daytime temperatures and afternoon rains. The average age of a buck harvested on the late hunts has climbed from just over two years of age to over 4 years of age in the past several years, yearling buck weights have stabilized at an acceptable level in recent years and as a result antler development has been excellent. Check stock tanks for elk use (tracks) prior to the season. 3799 - Units 12A, 12B, 13A, and 13B have an extremely low-density elk population, about 40-50 elk combined for all four units. Areas: Concentrate your efforts on the southeast side of the Plateau in sub-unit 12AE. Actually, n reports of elk have been reported in these areas or in the unit for the last couple of years. Arizona Game and Fish Department, Region II 928 774-5045 Although 12A/12B is not known for its record breaking antelope bucks, hunt success has typically been around 40% for archery and 100% for rifle. Although this herd is only estimated to have around 100 animals, the herd appears to be fairly stable. No motorized vehicles are allowed in BLM wilderness. Large numbers of domestic sheep grazed on the Paria Plateau, Vermilion Cliffs, and Paria Canyon until the 1960s when the Bureau of Land Management converted all grazing permits to cattle only. For a resident, it only takes ~9-10 bonus point to be guaranteed an archery tag in 5B South, likewise for 5B North. During the spring hunt be prepared for cold temperatures and even snow. 12A includes the Kaibab plateau that actually starts in southern Utah and rising up to the south to 9300+ ft. The terrain in this unit could generally be described as plateau/canyon country. Cold nights are the norm in all seasons, specially in non summer months. The AZ/UT state line on a GPS unit is N37 00.0 latitude. Good optics are a must for both scouting and glassing during your hunt. Hunters are required to report their mountain lion harvest information to the Arizona Game and Fish Department within 48 hours of taking a mountain lion. Proactive management steps in the form of an Alternative Management Plan and a large scale habitat improvement project in cooperation with the USFS have been taken by the Arizona Game and Fish Department in order to maintain a favorable buck:doe ratio, increase the representation of older age bucks in the population, ensure long term high quality habitat, and provide for greater hunt success. This area is very remote with only a few conveniences provided at the communities of Vermilion Cliffs, Cliff Dwellers, Marble Canyon, Fredonia/Kanab, and Jacob Lake. As mentioned above, the main concentration of antelope is in House Rock Valley. Therefore, chances for success are very low. Follow a few simple rules and your chance of success will increase exponentially. It'd be a great trip to take and walk around the woods/sit some watering holes for a day or two as a bonus; and hope to be the luckiest hunter ever. Bring binoculars and spotting scopes. These areas are open to foot and horseback travel only. Other areas to consider are Badger Springs and Soap Spring along the Vermillion Cliffs within the wilderness area. Most of House Rock Valley is fairly flat with low rolling hills, so it is important to be able to locate the antelope from a distance and plan your stalk according to the surrounding terrain and conditions. It is recommended that hunters do not apply for this hunt in the draw but rather purchase the tags at a significant discount as left over tags. Likewise, hunters who want to hunt the Paria Plateau must apply for a 12B permit. . It is common to observe bighorns in locations where it is not possible to recover them. Temperatures and conditions may shift from temperate to extreme in the space of several hours. During the cooler months, elk will occasionally move south to the Kaibab from southern Utah. Overview: The world famous, or infamous, Kaibab Mule Deer herd. We hunt a variety of units in Arizona. MAP VIEW. If you are fortunate enough to draw one of the most sought after deer tags in the United States come to the Kaibab with realistic expectations and remember, we hunt for the experience. Camping is allowed in designated areas and within 30 of open roadways on Forest Service administered lands throughout the unit. From the South: U.S. Hwy 89A, Wahweap Marina Campground at Lake Powell, administered by the National Park Service; Page Lake Powell Campground, 849 S. Coppermine Rd. Concentrate in areas dominated by this type of vegetation and look for turkey tracks in the snow, mud, dust, or around water sources. A map of the zones can be found at Mountain Lion management zone map. Many hunters utilize horses and mules, snowmobiles, and other recreational vehicles to overcome these access limitations. . Under alternative management these favorable ratios should be maintained or even improved. Permit numbers for the 12B hunt are very limited. Unit 12A continues to provide the turkey hunter and/or wildlife enthusiast a unique opportunity to observe Merriams Turkeys. Unlike the early hunt, the late hunt is managed for harvesting older aged deer, having high hunter success, and low density of hunters. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Trumbull and or Grand Canyon Wilderness. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. In addition to the 48-hr reporting requirement, the hunter (or their designee) needs to present the mountain lions skull and hide with attached proof of sex to a designated Arizona Game and Fish Department employee for inspection within 10 days of taking the mountain lion. Several restaurants, store, fuel, dump stations available in several locations between Jacob and the rim. You know when they say that something sounds too good to be true then A forum community dedicated to hunting and fishing enthusiasts in the Arizona area. The Kaibab has supplied many happy hunting experiences in the past and will hopefully continue to do so for generations to come. During the fall hunt, turkey hunting is a totally different game. The grouse season in the fall provides a beautiful time to camp on the Kaibab and an inability to locate grouse is a great excuse for enjoying some of the finest scenery and weather Arizona has to offer. Pronghorn are also found along the edge of the plateau in the pinyon-juniper transition zone. Look for areas with mixed conifer, aspens, and berry bushes in close proximity. This is my first year being drawn for elk and got a tag for all 12 and 13 units for any elk and this tag is good until April of '19. Most of the scouting packages we offer are two days. The best hunting techniques include walking, and watching and listening while sitting with your back to a tree. The average Boone and Crockett score for the last 5 years has been in the mid-150s. I don't know if there is a worse hunt to be drawn for to be honest. Our Arizona late-season elk hunts are a great hunt for hunters that want to experience bachelor herds of bull elk. During the fall hunt gas, food, and lodging can be found in Fredonia, Jacob Lake, and near DeMotte Park. Concentrate your efforts in areas with rim-rock and significant changes in elevation. Under alternative management these favorable ratios should be maintained or even improved. No off-road travel by motor vehicles is allowed. After a snow storm a hunter will drive the roads found within the Unit 12 winter deer range early in the morning looking for tracks. Concentrate on areas that are more inaccessible. New Detailed bison hunt information web page. The majority of elk in this unit are located on National Forest lands in the southern part of the unit. On a 12A early hunt, once again, dont bother with pinyon/juniper habitat types unless it has snowed. That is not a problem since the other units may not have any elk at all. Note: 12BW is the entire portion of 12B that is west of BLM road 1065 (House Rock Valley/ Coyote Valley Road), excluding the Paria Plateau. Areas:Any areas with concentrations of deer often have lions associated with them. Remember this deer herd is extremely migratory and will remain at higher elevations until significant snowfall pushes them off. Data currently indicates that buck: doe ratios, a very important management statistic, have rebounded as of late and are significantly higher than the statewide average. Address 123 Main Street New York, NY 10001, Hours MondayFriday: 9:00AM5:00PM Saturday & Sunday: 11:00AM3:00PM. The health and longevity of this winter range is critical to the long term sustainability of the 12A deer herd. This area will provide an excellent opportunity for archery and early season general deer hunters for the foreseeable future. So what do you think Bearfoot1? Well, I wasn't, but welcome to AHT to you also! Not all weather elements are available within the unit. Worst case you get to explore az with some friends! Overview: This unit is primarily winter range for migratory deer from both the North Kaibab Plateau in Arizona and from the Paunsaugunt Plateau in southern Utah. Hunters obtaining an elk tag should be aware that this unit has few elk and is considered a limited opportunity hunt. You've got a lot of country to access. North of Kane Ranch, there are a few groups of antelope scattered throughout the rolling hills. Hunt the travel corridors up or down from water and you will improve your odds. Hunters should note, the OTC elk tag is not a companion or corresponding tag and has its own hunting season dates, areas and other restrictions. Scuba Certification; Private Scuba Lessons; Scuba Refresher for Certified Divers; Try Scuba Diving; Enriched Air Diver (Nitrox) in Page; Lees Ferry Campground, 4 miles north of Marble Canyon, administered by the National Park Service. There is also a small herd that lives just south of Fredonia in the grassland/ low shrub density areas. The current yearly limit on lions harvested in Unit 12/Zone B stands at 14. As turkeys fly off the roost in the early pre-dawn, often the most active period of the day, they may provide a hunter the best opportunity to call in a wary old longbeard. Use the link, or scan code to get to this page and select the questionnaire for your hunt. The most common technique for lion hunting in Unit 12 is similar to that used throughout the Rim country in Arizona. Approximately 20% of Arizona's elk hunting opportunity is found in this unit. Come prepared for all types of weather. Use common sense; dont take shortcuts as they often take a lot longer than the more sensible route. From the North: None Its going to be HOT, if all else fails and you put in little effort, you could come away with a new pair of rattle snake boots! Concentrate on areas that are more inaccessible. Remember that hunting with the aid of a vehicle is prohibited. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. As the season progresses mule deer bucks on the plateau become more and more secretive. During the hunting seasons, unit 12A is characterized by sudden and drastic weather changes. If you are fortunate enough to receive a coveted 12A deer tag you might consider purchasing a mountain lion tag before heading to the Kaibab. Keep movements to a minimum, scan the surrounding area constantly, and listen for turkey vocalizations. Overview: The world famous, or infamous, Kaibab Mule Deer herd. Roads in the unit can become extremely muddy when wet and heavy rains frequently wash out the main roads, thus it is important to be prepared with suitable shelter, plenty of food, water and extra fuel. As the fall progresses the deer become more and more secretive. A few, very few elk wander south from Utah now and then. Forest road 68G accesses Tule Mesa, and forest road 68 access the Pine Mountain Wilderness. A good pair of binoculars and spotting scope will improve the chance of taking a trophy bull. Keep movements to a minimum, scan the surrounding area constantly, and listen for turkey vocalizations. . Also, several lions are sighted each year by hunters glassing canyons and watching waters. Areas around Crystal Springs, Sourdough Well, and along the 610 rd near the National Park Boundary provide the best opportunity for finding the often secretive Blue Grouse. The AZ/UT state line on a GPS unit is N37 00.0 latitude. The majority of the unit is public land administered by the Bureau of Land Management, Arizona Strip District, 345 E. Riverside Drive, St. George, Utah 84770, phone (435) 688-3200. On the Kaibab Plateau the bird has a very restricted range occupying mixed conifer habitat types near the south end of the Kaibab National Forest and is also found in the Grand Canyon National Park North Rim. The majority of the unit is public land administered by the Bureau of Land Management, Arizona Strip District, 345 E. Riverside Drive, St. George, Utah 84770, phone (435) 688-3200. Use the link, or scan code to get to this page and select the questionnaire for your hunt. Majority of the deer harvested on the early hunt are younger bucks around 2 years of age. Seems like an expensive camping and hiking excursion in a beautiful part of the country with good friends and maybe a random elk. You will find the majority of antelope south and east of the ranch and all the way out to the rim of Marble Canyon. 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